Meg asks Chucky about IT, and he explains that IT is the boss.Meg replies that maybe she doesn't like being different, but she sure wouldn't want to be the same as everyone else either.Chucky explains that difference is the source of suffering, and that by getting rid of difference the people of Camazotz are happier.He explains that since matter is mostly empty space it's simple to rearrange the atoms to make room for people to get through. Chucky makes a wall open up to take them into an elevator.Chucky tells them more about the wonders of Camazotz: there's no illness because anyone with the slightest sniffle is slaughtered, but there's no murder on Camazotz because IT controls everything.Calvin makes the attempt, and almost gets through, but only manages to anger whatever it is that's controlling Chucky.Meg reminds Calvin that his gift is communication, and tells him to try to communicate with the real Charles Wallace.Meg wants to grab Calvin's hand, but realizes she's been relying too much on others' handholding, and decides to be brave all by herself.The man tells them that Chucky will take them to Mr.Calvin asks the man who or what he is, but all the man will tell them is that he is the Prime Coordinator. He might as well just speak to them himself. Calvin tells the man to stop talking to them through Chucky.Chucky tells Meg that she should just stop resisting and relax into the perfect order of Camazotz. Chucky tells them that the man is their father's friends, and Meg says she'll believe that when she hears it from her father – unless her dad is hypnotized as Chucky seems to be.
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